IS WEATHER MODIFICATION A THING? answer YES
Environmental Marxism and Tyranny
In Main Stream Media there is no acknowledgement that Weather Modification is a thing: AND CAN BE WEAPONIZED. I’d like to say it’s pure naivety. But the silence can be contrasted with the actual research, investment and published papers in this area. If something can be weaponized it will. In other words we need as citizens to know when its being utilized and how. Can you have the rain dump into the ocean before reaching the coast and the Sierra Nevada mountain range. You could. Could you create the necessity for ‘Green Boots tyranny’? You could. If I can think of it, well who else could.
IS THERE A WHISTLE BLOWER THAT LOVES THEIR NATION OR ANYONE IN THE US THAT WANTS TO DRAFT AND FOI FOR WEATHER MODIFICATIONS OVER THE LAST 5 YEARS?
“The National Centre of Meteorology (NCM) is responsible for ongoing monitoring of meteorological and seismic activity in the UAE. The services provided by NCM to a wide range of governmental and public sector customers include monitoring atmospheric changes, providing up-to-date meteorological information, and assessing data on seismic phenomena. The Center also facilitates the exchange of data and information on meteorological events with many regional and international partners. The NCM is also contributes to the latest research on its fields of expertise by participating in scientific and academic events and through contributing to a wide range of publications.”
“This UAE Research Program for Rain Enhancement Science is a new initiative designed to improve water security in arid and semi-arid areas around the world.”
“The UAE has already built considerable momentum in achieving energy-efficient water security. However, with the country still dependent on groundwater for two-thirds of its domestic requirements, challenges remain. The issue of water security in the United Arab Emirates is one of the country’s main future challenges.
“Rain enhancement, a part of those activities more popularly known as ‘cloud seeding’, could offer a viable, cost-effective supplement to existing water supplies in arid and semi-arid regions. The technique offers sufficient potential for regional governments to develop a new tool in their quest to ensure water security. To encourage research in this promising field, the UAE has created the UAE Research Program for Rain Enhancement Science to oversee a a grant of up to, $1.5 Million (US Dollars), distributed over three years program to encourage scientists and researchers innovative ideas for rain enhancement science and technology. The program’s objectives are the development of techniques to improve the efficiency and predictive capabilities of targeted cloud seeding operations. Water security is an important long-term issue; our Program will be ongoing to enhance scientific understanding of rain enhancement so that we can make a lasting contribution to the global fight against water scarcity.
“Although the science of rain enhancement has been actively pursued since the late 1940s, it still offers considerable potential in terms of research, development and innovation.
UAE achievements in rain enhancement:
“The UAE cloud-seeding program started in the 1990s. By early 2001 the program was cooperating with well-known organizations such as:
the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) in Colorado, USA, as well as
the Witwatersrand University in South Africa and
the US Space Agency, NASA.
The UAE now has more than 60 networked weather stations in the UAE, a weather radar network, and six aircraft for cloud seeding operations. Rain enhancement operations have focused on the mountainous areas in the north-east of the country, where cumulus clouds gather in the summer. Importantly, no harmful chemicals are used in UAE cloud seeding operations; our specialized aircraft only use natural salts, and no harmful chemicals.”
“International achievements in rain enhancement:
Rain enhancement has also been actively pursued by a number of other countries. Examples of these are:
China, which currently has a wide cloud seeding system.
The United States, where cloud seeding is being used to increase precipitation in areas experiencing drought and to reduce the size of hailstones that form in thunderstorms.
India, where rain enhancement operations have been successfully employed in recent years to boost rainfall levels in Andhra Pradesh and Maharashtra States.
Thailand, where the enlightened and far-sighted role played by His Highness King Bhumibol of Thailand has been instrumental in the development of Thailand’s excellent record of successful operations to boost rainfall in water basins and agricultural areas.
The current rain enhancement research agenda:
Specialists in rain enhancement point to several obstacles to the effective augmentation and catchment of rain, all of which we are confident can be overcome. Currently, the three key technical challenges are the collation and analysis of data on cloud formations; the selection and deployment of seeding materials; and the process of identifying and tracking suitable clouds for seeding.
Firstly, the data collection process for clouds needs to be improved both in terms of response times and geographical coverage. All too often, meteorologists can anticipate the build-up of rain bearing clouds, but are prevented from gathering sufficient data because of an insufficient spatial density of monitoring stations or rain gauges.
Secondly, there is the issue of seeding materials. Existing seeding operations suggest that hydroscopic materials are the best option for warm, convective clouds, while silver iodine is more appropriate for use on cloud formations in colder climates. New research is needed to investigate the efficacy of seeding materials and how these can be more effectively deployed.
Thirdly, identifying and tracking the right kind of clouds for seeding operations requires improved monitoring infrastructures that can provide real time information.
Finding a solution to these challenges could open the way for rain enhancement to play a key role in efforts to meet water sustainability targets. Although the immediate aim of the UAE Research Program for Rain Enhancement Science is to increase the UAE’s rainfall and boost freshwater supply, the intention is to generate results that could have wider applications for countries that might benefit from advances in rain augmentation technology.
As an arid country with low annual rainfall levels, a high evaporation rate of surface water, and a low groundwater recharge rate that is far less than the total annual water used in the country, the UAE is eager to share its experience in rain enhancement and to foster a spirit of international knowledge transfer and cooperative development in the science of precipitation.
Through such active support for research and development innovation, the UAE is playing its part in reinvigorating work in this field. The country’s efforts to explore all options for strengthening water sustainability reflects awareness that in the decades to come, increasing water scarcity could trigger civil and inter-state conflicts in arid and semi-arid regions. Reflecting the importance of securing our future water supplies, the UAE government is driving the innovation needed to make rain enhancement a key tool in our efforts to ensure adequate supplies of freshwater for people in arid and semi-arid regions around the world.”
NCM to host sixth International Rain Enhancement Forum in Abu Dhabi
Gathering leading global and national experts, researchers, scientists, and stakeholders, the Forum will discuss the latest scientific and technological advances in rain enhancement research
Lina Ibrahim, WAM (Emirates News Agency)
January 8, 2023
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“ABU DHABI - Under the patronage of H.H. Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of the Presidential Court, the National Centre of Meteorology (NCM) will host the 6th Edition of the International Rain Enhancement Forum (IREF) from 24-26 January, 2023.
Gathering leading global and national experts, researchers, scientists, and stakeholders, the Forum will discuss the latest scientific and technological advances in rain enhancement research.
As a leading event tackling urgent water and sustainability issues worldwide, IREF provides a platform for discussion of the latest developments and efforts to find innovative solutions to water security issues through advancing scientific understanding and sharing knowledge in rain enhancement, while highlights the UAE's position as a global hub in rain enhancement.
Dr. Abdulla Al Mandous, Director of NCM and President of the Regional Association II (Asia) of the World Meteorological Organisation (WMO), said, “We are proud to host the 6th International Rain Enhancement Forum as a means of strengthening international cooperation in this important field. The event serves as an excellent opportunity to bring together the scientific community to discuss the latest developments and technologies in rain enhancement domain.”
Al Mandous added that through IREF, NCM demonstrates its continued commitment to supporting the UAE Research Programme for Rain Enhancement Science (UAEREP) in its efforts to boost water security for the benefit of communities at high risk of draught and water stress around the world.
In addition to discussing the latest progress on UAEREP’s eleven awardee projects, the 6th edition of IREF will examine the water security challenges in the global climate agenda, as well as the opportunities and challenges to implement rainfall enhancement models and technologies.
The Forum will cover new approaches and innovations for rainfall enhancement and regional and global developments in rainfall enhancement by hosting representatives from countries with operational rain enhancement programmes and projects and discussing significant lessons and success stories from across the globe.
As part of the agenda, university students will be offered the opportunity to present their innovative research projects to a group of world-renowned scientists in the fields of weather modification and rain enhancement.
The event will also see the announcement of the launch of the 5th cycle of the UAEREP award along with in-depth discussion about the next cycle's categories and priorities.
Commenting on the Forum, Alya Mazroui, Director of the UAE Research Programme for Rain Enhancement Science, said, “The latest edition of our Forum will allow participants to discuss new science and technologies as we work to drive novel research in the field. Therefore, I urge all interested scientists and technologists with the required expertise to join our quest to tackle global water security by maximising the potential of this growing research area. Our agenda provides for three days of discussions that will give us an excellent opportunity to review the progress of our eleven Awardee Projects while also assessing the potential of research results from the new areas that focus on enhanced cloud formation.”
The UAE Research Programme for Rain Enhancement Science is a research initiative launched by the Ministry of Presidential Affairs of the UAE and managed by the National Centre of Meteorology (NCM). Through its activities, the Programme has forged strong ties with more than 1,800 researchers from over 800 institutions in 70 countries across 4 continents. With regard to new research, UAEREP has supported the publication of 84 scientific articles, the granting of 5 patents, and contributions to more than 100 conference proceedings.”
I think what many are concerned with is the weaponization of these technologies: either to seed clouds before they reach your ‘neighbours borders’ and preferentially receive rain, or to produce drought.
For instance, if you seeded an area over the ocean on the Pacific you could reduce the rainfall that would reach the mountains from BC down to California. Thus creating a drought conditions that would dry out underbrush. OH. FIRES. Quick Green Boots get us into 15 minute cities.
You could seed clouds in the same area, and in upland river feeds to produce floods.
The ability for citizens to know the ‘seeding’ the when the where and the why should be transparent. Particularly where it is the same people who seem to want ‘climate’ as justification for Marxism who fund and have access to these technologies.
The UAE IMO has a serious issue to resolve.
What the UAE should be in tandem working on?
Reclaiming ALL HUMAN SEWAGE WASTE
Boston sells it’s pelletized waste to Florida to act as a barrier on the soil from evaporation. Essentially I propose all municipalities get these ‘grants’ to convert their waste into such ‘safe’ pellets via the BOSTON SYSTEM. Then they are shipped to ‘badlands’ or ‘desserts’ to provide a layer to reconvert desertified lands into lands that 1) can retain moisture; 2) can reduce evaporation; 3) can build up a soil layer; 4) which in turn can support a vegetative structure.
Once this occurs; small regular ‘pits’ could be created for periodical ‘pooling’ of water and to capture water. I saw a study years ago about how that enabled recharging of the ground water; water which is directed to water ways, eventually makes it way to the watershed back to the ocean, taking nutrients and soil into the rivers etc. Water that pools prior to reaching the watershed, slowly returns to acquifer and becomes a reservoir within the soil for roots and trees and agriculture
Ships that come with oil could leave with valuable pellets. This would also be a way to address fertilizer shortages or concerns agriculture is now facing. the methane captured is utilized for the plants energy production needs.
Rather than build cities into 15 minute marxist compounds, the funds should be deployed to solve a massive oversight in ecology which is that billions of people use resources which are not redeployed appropriately back into the environment.
Sewage treatment has been about releasing sewage into the environment in a not productive often harmful to waterways manner. If this were 1 person; well ok. But its millions all the time and with every flush. There’s your environmental solution that involves ‘technology, carbon capture, land reclamation, improved agricultural returns, safer water ways, less nutrient discharge into waters, less reliance on chemical fertilizers, a return to the environment: AND ZERO FREAKING MARXISM.
Send me you grant application: I’ll work on it.
The BEST system I’ve studied which also makes the sewage free from pathogens before redeploying is in BOSTON!
“MWRA's Deer Island Wastewater Treatment Plant is the centerpiece of MWRA' $3.8 billion program to protect Boston Harbor against pollution from Metropolitan Boston's sewer systems.
The plant removes human, household, business and industrial pollutants from wastewater that originates in homes and businesses in 43 greater Boston communities. In compliance with all federal and state environmental standards and subject to the precedent-setting discharge permit issued for the plant by EPA and DEP, its treated wastewater can be released to the marine environment.
MAJOR COMPONENTS OF THE PLANT
Pumping
Wastewater "influent" from MWRA customer communities arrives at the plant through four underground tunnels. Pumps then lift the influent about 150 feet to the head of the plant. There are three main pump stations. The North System is served by the North Main Pump Station and the Winthrop Terminal Headworks, containing ten 3,500 hp pumps and six 600 hp pumps. The capacity for the North System is 910 mgd. The Lydia Goodhue Pump Station for the South System can handle an additional 360 mgd of flow, and contains eight 1,250 hp pumps. The pumping capacity at the new Deer Island plant has dramatically increased the volume of wastewater that can be taken into the plant from the conveyance tunnels. This reduces back-ups and overflows throughout the system when wet weather causes peaking of system flows.
Primary Treatment
After pumping, flows pass through grit chambers that remove grit for disposal in an off-island landfill. Next, flows are routed to primary treatment clarifiers that remove about half of the pollutants brought to the plant in typical wastewater (50-60% of total suspended solids and up to 50% of pathogens and toxic contaminants are removed). In this step, gravity separates sludge and scum from the wastewater. The plant uses 48 primary clarifiers that are 186 feet long by 41 feet wide by 24 feet deep. The clarifiers have a "stacked" settling surface at mid-depth to double the settling capacity of the tanks that are squeezed into the tight space confines of Deer Island.
Secondary Treatment
Secondary treatment mixers, reactors and clarifiers remove non-settleable solids through biological and gravity treatment. The biological process is a pure oxygen-activated sludge system, using microorganisms to consume organic matter that remains in the wastewater flow. Secondary treatment raises the level of pollution removal to over 85%.
Three "batteries" of secondary treatment were completed in 1997, 1998 and 2001, respectively. Over one hundred tons of pure oxygen are manufactured each day at Deer Island's cryogenic facility to support the biological treatment process. The Deer Island Treatment Plant generates 130 - 220 tons of pure oxygen per day to support the secondary treatment process.
Sludge Digestion
Sludge and scum from primary treatment are thickened in gravity thickeners. Sludge and scum from secondary treatment are thickened in centrifuges. Polymer is added in the secondary thickening process to increase its efficiency. Digestion then occurs in 12 distinctive egg-shaped anaerobic digesters, each 90 feet in diameter and approximately 130 feet tall. Mimicking the stomach's natural digestion process, microorganisms naturally present in the sludge work to break sludge and scum down into methane gas, carbon dioxide, solid organic byproducts, and water. Digestion significantly reduces sludge quantity.
The byproduct of the digestion process is 70 percent methane gas, which is captured and piped to boilers that generate enough heat to warm the buildings on the site as well as for the heat-dependent treatment processes. The steam from those boilers is sent through a steam turbine generator (STG) producing an average of approximately 3 megawatts of electricity.
Digested sludge leaves Deer Island is transported through the Inter-Island Tunnel to MWRA's pelletizing facility at Fore River, where it is further processed into a fertilizer product.
Odor Control
Air scrubbers and carbon adsorbers remove odors and volatile organic compounds from treatment process "off-gases". Odor control is used for primary and secondary treatment process facilities, as well as the sludge processing, plant pumping, and grit removal facilities. Odor control performance is constantly monitored and is governed by a special DEP air quality permit.
Disinfection
After passing through primary and secondary treatment, wastewater is disinfected with sodium hypochlorite to kill bacteria. There are two disinfection basins, each approximately 500 feet long with a capacity of 4 million gallons, in which the effluent is mixed with sodium hypochlorite. Finally, sodium bisulfite is added to dechlorinate the water, so that chlorine levels in the ultimate discharge will not threaten marine organisms. After disinfection and dechlorination, the effluent is ready to be discharged.
Effluent Discharge
A 9.5-mile 24-foot-diameter outfall tunnel transports effluent into the 100-foot deep waters of Massachusetts Bay. Effluent is discharged through more than 50 individual diffuser pipes, each with eight small ports, so that rapid and thorough mixing into surrounding water is achieved and water quality standards are not compromised by the discharge. Extensive environmental monitoring ensures that the environment is properly protected. For more information, go to our What About the New Outfall? section.
Laboratory Services
A central laboratory at Deer Island performs more than 100,000 analyses per year to support process control and ensure that wastewater discharges meet the restrictions contained in the plant's permit. For more information, go to our Laboratory Services section.
Operation and Maintenance
The Deer Island plant was built with computerized systems to assist operations and maintenance management. The computerized operations systems include the Process Information Control System (PICS) and the Operation Management System (OMS). PICS provides real-time operations data from systems throughout the plant (including system status, flow, etc.) while OMS correlates PICS data with laboratory analysis to track and analyze plant process performance with regard to the plant's discharge permit from EPA and DEP and with respect to cost effective operation.
Maximo is the computerized maintenance management system used at Deer Island. The long-term maintenance strategy for the plant is being refined to assure that plant assets are maintained, serviced and replaced when necessary. Major commitments to personnel training have allowed MWRA to match staff resources with the opportunities for efficiency provided by modern computer based systems.
Measuring Plant Performance
MWRA continually compiles information on how the Deer Island Sewage Treatment Plant is performing on key measurements, including the measures that are contained in the discharge permit. Find them at: Water Quality Report Archive (scroll to "Treatment Plant Performance Reports" section.
VISITING AND LEARNING ABOUT THE DEER ISLAND TREATMENT PLANT
On Deer Island, five miles of public walkways and trails are open to the public. Click here for more information.”
“The Deer Island facility in Boston Harbor processes the city's waste and turns the solids into commercial fertilizer, but advocates say the future will require a far different approach than even modern sewer systems.
“Waste? Not
We all produce a rich resource in our homes and then spend millions of dollars to throw it away. A new movement says there are smarter ways to think about waste.
Email|Print|Single Page| Text size – +By Rebecca Tuhus-DubrowJuly 13, 2008
IN A WORLD of rapidly diminishing resources, there's one we tend to overlook. It's easy to produce and extremely abundant. But instead of viewing it as an embarrassment of riches, we're more likely to see it as just an embarrassment.
This neglected treasure is human waste. Urine is rich in nitrogen, potassium, and phosphorus, the three main ingredients in artificial fertilizer. Feces contains these nutrients, too, in smaller doses, and the methane it produces can be harnessed as biogas, a green energy source.
Yet in most cultures, understandably, the first impulse is not to use waste wisely, but to get rid of it as quickly as possible. In many rural, undeveloped areas, people simply "go" in the bush, or by the closest river. In advanced industrialized societies, we flush it away.
Both methods - and several others between the extremes - pose problems that grow more conspicuous every day. As the developing world has grown more crowded and urban, the lack of adequate sanitation has become a public health crisis. In America and other developed countries, the system works much more smoothly, but uses enormous quantities of clean water - about 4,000 gallons per person each year - and requires massive amounts of energy and money to treat the resulting sewage.
But now a growing global movement aims to make sanitation more sustainable by changing how both rich and poor countries think about human waste - recasting it as a valuable resource that is most costly when thrown away. Following a philosophy known as ecological sanitation, or "ecosan," and fueled by a convergence of factors - the rising prices of energy and artificial fertilizer, increasing worries about food security, and concern for the environment - the push to reform sanitation has gained currency around the world, driving innovations from toilet design to farming practices. And some sanitation reformers say they are even making headway into the most vexing question: How to get people to see promise in a substance they are taught from birth to find revolting.
"There's been a lot of resistance and disbelief that anything like this can work," says Mayling Simpson-Hebert, a technical adviser with Catholic Relief Services in East Africa. "That seems to be changing."
For some proponents of sanitation reform in developed countries, that's part of the point: changing everyday behavior is going to be key to solving our ecological crises. According to Arno Rosemarin, research and communications manager at the Stockholm Environment Institute, our current "flush and forget" system makes it too easy to ignore the repercussions of waste disposal. If we are going to make meaningful changes in our environmental impact, the reasoning goes, perhaps we should start by thinking differently about the emissions that we ourselves produce.
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The idea of recycling our feces and urine may seem surprising, and perhaps disgusting, but the concept is hardly new. China and Japan have long traditions of re-using human waste as fertilizer. Even in England, as recently as the 19th century, "nightmen" would take human waste from backyards to sell to farmers.
But that was before the British "sanitation revolution." Exactly 150 years ago this summer, the river Thames in London overflowed with human waste in what was known as the Great Stink, forcing Parliament, located on the banks of the Thames, to take action. Sewers were subsequently installed, eventually resulting in major public health advances.
The flush toilet and its infrastructure have since become standard throughout the developed world. Excreta flow out of sight to a sewer system, and then to a waste treatment plant. In more remote areas, the sewage goes to nearby septic tanks that must be periodically emptied. The system's benefits are obvious, but it also has downsides that are growing increasingly apparent.
Annually, each of us produces about 13 gallons of feces and 130 gallons of urine, which is instantly diluted into the 4,000 gallons we use to flush it. This large quantity of contaminated liquid further mixes with "greywater," the water from the laundry, shower, and sink, tripling or quadrupling the amount of water that must be treated as sewage in energy-intensive plants. In effect, the system takes a relatively small amount of pathogenic material - primarily the feces - and taints enormous amounts of water with it. Especially in regions struggling with freshwater scarcity, many observers have come to see this system as highly inefficient. "It's a totally insane idea," says Rosemarin.
In this model, it's not only water that's wasted, critics say - it's also the valuable nutrients in the feces and urine, notably phosphorous. Global fertilizer prices have tripled in the last year, partly due to a shortage of phosphorus, which some see as a looming crisis. Against this background, some argue that it would be folly not to capitalize on the plentiful phosphorus in human waste. In the same vein, the methane it generates has the potential to provide cheap, renewable energy.
Rose George, author of a forthcoming book about sanitation, "The Big Necessity," says of the conventional system, "It was a solution 150 years ago and it was a very good one, but it should evolve."
Over the past couple of decades, some measures have already begun to exploit the value of waste and improve the system's efficiency. It has become common for treatment plants to convert some of the methane generated by sludge into biogas to partially power their own plants. Low-flush toilets and waterless urinals are small steps to conserve water. And the practice of using treated sludge - renamed "biosolids" - as chemical fertilizer has become customary in parts of the developed world. In the United States, according to the Environmental Protection Agency, about 50 percent of all biosolids are being recycled to land. The Massachusetts Water Resources Authority turns all of its sludge into fertilizer, some of which it sells commercially through a contractor and some of which it gives to communities.
But ecosan advocates assail this practice as unsustainable and unsafe. Under the current system, household waste mixes with industrial waste, including toxic materials. Although the EPA has issued treatment regulations, and the MWRA defends the safety of its fertilizer, there are concerns about the impact of sludge-derived products on soil and human health.
The most radical visionaries of this movement would apply the same principles to sanitation that we have begun to apply to other garbage in our homes. Just as we separate plastic, cardboard, and newspaper, says Rosemarin, we should separate urine, feces, and greywater.
The benefits of taking urine out of the waste stream are clear: Urine makes up less than 1 percent of all waste water in developed countries, but contains a huge proportion of the nitrogen and phosphorus. Those nutrients are essential to agriculture but harmful in water bodies, and removing them is the most energy-intensive part of treating waste water. And since urine is almost sterile, it can be used as fertilizer with little to no treatment.”
My own Macro view on this imputs and outputs of the world system is that we have billions of people consuming carbon/nitrogen energy in the form of food and unlike in traditional ecosystems we don’t return it to LAND. This is an UNBALANCE of epic proportions especially when diverted to water where the increase on phosphorus causes algae blooms and reduces the oxygen level. Rather than throw that out: I believe the Boston plants should be implemented everywhere and the soil amended with the rich by-products. That Cr&p is Gold. It seems very obvious to me. Then bad lands thus amended can support a forest again, nature can do what it wants to do without an APP AND SOCIAL CREDIT SYSTEM and CBDC. Right now my paper ID and paper money doesn’t need to be plugged in. Huh. All the insane things they propose, but whose measuring the energy intensity that goes into making digital prisons. These jerks need a lobotomy.
Sir Christopher Monkton in Ontario talking about Environmental Marxism
Environmental Science should be used for good. Whether ‘weather modification’ or ‘waste diversion’.
If it is used to TRACK YOU HUNT YOUR CARBON FOOTPRINT, CORALL YOU INTO A SPACE OR CONSUMPTION STRATEGY that is so restrictive as to be punitive; It is NOT Environmental Science: it is the technocrats’ social Marxist engineering to produce a Stalin like communism. (with the feudal lords and ladys at the top) Get your GREEN BOOTS OFF OUR NECKS.
We've got the right to choose, and
There ain't no way we'll lose it
This is our life, this is our song
We'll fight the powers that be, just
Don't pick on our destiny, 'cause
You don't know us, you don't belong
We're not gonna take it
No, we ain't gonna take it
We're not gonna take it anymore
Oh, you're so condescending
Your call is never ending
We don't want nothin', not a thing from you
Great article, thank you. Governments and organizations were talking about weather modification back in the '60s, and I remember it when I was in high school in the '80s. The fact that it's totally absent from climate change models and activist rhetoric makes them illegitimate. It's obvious this is happening because it's such a powerful technology, no one would give it up. But we don't know how much it's being used.
Have you seen this?
https://theecologist.org/2008/may/22/weather-warfare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO5Adt4nhCk